On this episode of The Drive Home to Hawkesbury Rachael catches up with with mother of five, Hypnotherapist and Naturopath, Kathryn Hams with some further insight on the questions raised this week from last week’s podcast.

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I’m Rachael Goldsworthy and welcome to the Drive Home to Hawkesbury, where I believe every home has a story and I love sharing those stories on real estate in the Hawkesbury with you. Here we share the best ways to add value to your property, how to avoid the common mistakes people make when buying and selling property, how to get the maximum return on your investment with a focus on supporting local business. I live in love Hawkesbury and can’t wait to get into today’s episode with you, so let’s get started.
Good evening, depending on what time you’re watching the Drive Home to Hawkesbury, I’m Rachael Goldsworthy, and today I am joined by Kathryn Hamms, with Sydney, how are you?
I’m good, how are you going? This is Aria.
Oh, Aria. I’m sorry.
Yes, it’s all right. You’re going to get to meet Sydney in a few minutes, but this is Aria, and Aria … Hey, Aria, look. There’s Rachael.
Hi, Aria. How are you going? I’ve got Topsy wanting to say hello. I don’t know whether-
Yeah, let’s have a go at it.
Those are my little grandkids, say hi.
Hello. Say hello, everybody. This is Topsy, she’s new in the family. Now Bruce wants to come up as well, no show without a punch say hello on the drive home to Hawkesbury, and Aria’s big smile, oh my gosh she’s so gorgeous.
You had Mother’s Day on the weekend, how is that?
We did. We had a lovely time on Sunday. I had the boys come over, well I had two of my sons I saw, my other daughter, as you know, is up in Valley, so she couldn’t make it down. And Aria decided to come visit today to see Grandma, which was great.
Hi Aria, how are you going? Are you good?
She’s lovely.
You are so cute, and I bet you get told that all the time, do you? And that’s your favourite toy there as well, is it?
Yeah, this is Bonnie I think it is. Another one at home, but this is Bonnie.
So I just wonder though, Rachael, how many moms are there, they must have all loved having her mother’s day yesterday.
Yeah.
Oh, we had a great day out with the family. It was fantastic, and always good to catch up with everybody, and as I’m sure, there’s lots of moms that had lots of fun as well on the day. Did everybody have a great Mother’s Day that’s watching? I hope you did, because you’re all so special and it’s so nice that the moms of the world can be rewarded on that day. But it shouldn’t just be on Mother’s Day that we remember how good our moms are, and all the great things that they do for us. So I hope you had a good day, and your kids had a good day with you as well.
Yeah, and for all of us out there that we didn’t have our mothers with us, and they passed, they’re always in our heart, and they’re always there. They’ll never go, because they shaped us to be who we are today, so to everyone, and as you know Rachael I mean a group of people that don’t, unfortunately have my mom with me still now, but for everyone else who’s mothers passed on, I hope you all had a great day too.
Yeah. No, that’s a really good point to make, because it must be difficult and challenging for those that don’t have their special moms with them, but as you say, they’re with us every day in the little things that we do that remind us of our moms and all of the things that they used to do for us, and within the sense of smell and touch, like just being in a coffee shop having coffee, you might remember certain things, or going fishing with the family, or different things trigger the memories, and they’re good memories too. So that’s a great point to make.
And tell me, what else did you get up to over the weekend?
You know I did catch up with the boys, and my youngest son is been looking at property … they’re all looking at property, actually, and he’s been following the property Market and something he told me, which I was pleased he asked, well, actually, we talked about it, was the fact that he’s been noticing a downtrend in the market in property prices.
Apparently he’s doing it on an Excel sheet, so he’s really graphing it quite well, and he’s into domain.com I think, is it Rachael, that one?
Yeah, domain.com and realestate.com is the other main portal that a lot of people do use to search for properties online.
Yeah. And so, tell me, do you think it is down turning or do you think I could just be a Sydney trend?
Look, I think it’s a really good question, and it’s always ever-changing landscape which property in real estate, but I guess the main thing to consider is the overall picture. What are you looking at doing with your property? What are the boys looking at doing? Investing in property, is it going to be short-term, is it going to be long-term, because those things will make a difference as to what the eventual strategy is for the investment, so it’s really important from that perspective.
You’re only going to be losing money if the Market does change if you have to sell and you’ve bought high, or [crosstalk 00:05:19] if you’re in that current market and you’re not too sure what’s going on, you’ll only lose money if you sell it a less price than what you bought it for, so if you’re happy to sit there and wait [inaudible 00:05:29] the property Market.
But equally over the LGA in the Hawkesbury, we’ve had an increase of approximately 90% over the past 5 years, so there’s been strong gains and while some people in the media may, it depends on what day you watch the news it’ll be a different story each and every day, so it’s really important to speak to the right people, find out what area are they looking at, what the investment strategy is, whether it’s long term or short term.
And make sure you do that due diligence, because it’s really important prior to buying a house, because I think everybody tries to do their due diligence after they’ve already bought the house or they found that there’s certain things that they’re not happy about or what have you. So I always find if you’re well-versed prior to going into the purchase, so whether it’s your finances lined up, whether it’s the actual house [inaudible 00:06:17] all those sorts of things, find out what’s on in the area, find out what’s important. Whether there’s trains, whether there’s transport, buses, walking distance to Doctors, Hospitals, all that sort of stuff, that’s really important prior to-
Do you have a checklist for people to check that sort of thing off? Or is it something they could ring and talk to you about, do you think? Because I’m just thinking that what you do, with what you do and like with my son he’s looking I think, maybe investment, whereas I’ve got my daughters looking for a family, for Aria to have a little place, and things like that, and you know my other son he’s got a house, but you know the other one is looking.
And I suppose because depending on whether they’re looking for a home looking for an investment. And when it’s a home, they’re so emotional must be so hard, because they really want to get into that first home, and yet they got to tick the boxes.
So what would you do, or how can you help people that get into that emotional turmoil with it?
Yeah, that’s a really good question and I’m happy to share with people the due diligence checklist that I have, so if anybody wants to get a copy of that, just get in contact with me I’ll be happy to help you with that. Equally, in regards to the property Market and anything that’s going on, sometimes you just want to call an agent and find out what the market is like, what that area is like, so happy to do anything in regards to that, always happy to help.
That’s good. Well, I’m going to give my lovely little granddaughter back to her mom, and I think it’s about feeding time, so-
There you go, thanks for having Aria on the show, that was great especially with Mother’s Day, it was so special, just that time of the year. When they’re young.
I’ve actually just come from a persons property over in and hello to Deanna and Jeremy, they’ve got a beautiful family. They’ve just had Mason not so long ago, and they’ve got gorgeous Oscar.
And I just want to apologise to people that were expecting us to start at 12. Duty called, and I was out a little bit late, so I apologise, but you get to meet all these great people and see what they’ve done to the house after you’ve sold them the home, and I’ve just been some beautiful renovations. Changed the house completely from a three-bedroom to a four-bedroom, adding so much value. Putting in floor boards, new kitchens, new bathrooms, at a reasonable cost but newly adding that value so that they will capitalise on that move.
So regardless of whether the markets good or bad, if you’re looking at staying in the property for a period of time, do the work that you don’t over capitalised, so that you don’t spend too much money and get that back when you go to market the property. Deanna and Jeremy have done a great job, and I love that part of my job, it’s so exciting going back and seeing everybody I’m sure they bought the house and what they’ve done to it, the renovations.
And I think sometimes it’s like when people are buying houses, especially when it’s their dream home with their family, they may go into a house and see it a certain way, but if they can sort of unlimit their thinking they can actually turn that into their dream home, as it was once before someone else’s Dream Home.
Exactly. Yeah, it’s so true. And just little changes, like for example, there was the back wall, and everybody’s probably had this scenario before, by taking out that particular wall and putting a sliding door in there, that brought so much of the morning sun into, and the afternoon sun, into the house, and it just lightens and brightens the space. And even just painting the house a neutral colour throughout, having neutral floor boards or tiling throughout, even in the bathrooms, not going heavy tones or really light tones, just something … whether it’s white or whether it’s something that’s fairly neutral that everybody can see themselves in that you’ll certainly do well when you go to market the property, and even you get to enjoy it at the same time.
And it’s always fun to be able to do those things, to change something, as you say, to try out all those do-it-yourself sort of things they’ve got it home and garden and things like that on Friday nights. So always trying to teach people how to do things and to do it cost effectively, which is really good as well.
I will say that you and your partner are very talented in that regard, I’ve seen many projects that you’ve done, and you’re always doing do-it-yourself projects around the house, and it’s just amazing, some of the things.
You got your drop-saw back from the mechanic the other day [inaudible 00:10:52] I mean, these are pretty serious Renovations, and I guess it’s a matter of giving it a go but well done, you. What’s the best project for the most exciting project that you’ve been involved with [inaudible 00:11:04]
We’ve done many things, we’ve taken a little weatherboard house that was just a two-bedroom weatherboard house into a five-bedroom house now, but first off, I suppose, one of the things is when I actually meant to put a new kitchen and I found out it was going to be so expensive.
And it was just getting the dotted line signed and not changing the price every time, at the end of the day I got sick of it, so we went to the auctions and we bought a kitchen for two and a half thousand, and then defending games putting it together and getting it out. But I think the thing is to be able to stand back at the end of it and to look at it and say, “Wow, look what I’ve done.”
And it’s that achievement, and it’s the belief, the belief in your own self that look, I can do it. And today the people, you’ve got YouTube, you got all these programmes. And I want to just say, though, not taking away from Tradesmen, because there are things we need to have our Tradesmen for things like that, you’ve got to keep within the realms of keeping everything safe as well.
And also it’s not a matter of having a drop saw or this.
No, it’s true. And the end result for you has been lovely, and I know that all of our houses, they’re always work in progress, there’s always something that you want to do, and you probably feel as though you need to get to the end of that tunnel where the light is shining brightly, but at the end of the day it’s a fun journey doing that.
I mean over the years we’ve looked at different properties, the family is like the properties, I’ve looked at properties and purchased some, and done some up, some I’ve held, some I’ve sold, you know just depends on your strategy is what I was talking about before.
But it’s nothing better, as you said, I think you hit the nail on the head so to speak, in regards to the satisfaction. You finish this job, you look and it might be the gardens that you’ve done for that day, I know you’ve done some really nice gardens along the boundaries of your property recently, and it’s just a matter of looking back, watering the garden and going, “Gee, that feels good.” And, “Gee, that looks good.” and I get to drive into my driveway and see that every day and it’s just going to make me feel warm in the heart.
And I think actually, mentioning that garden that we’ve done at the side, that came about for the fact that my neighbours are about to build a house. Now I’m on acreage, and the thing is that we looked and thought we’ll all the sudden our privacy is going to go. So you’d have two ways of thinking of thinking, that you could go on a downward spiral and go oh my God my privacy is gone, what am I going to do? And we could go negative.
Or we turned around and went, okay, well we want to live here and we love it here so we’re going to plant some trees along there. I’m sure they want their privacy, too, so it’s a win-win for both of us.
Of course.
So at the end of the day it’s to try and always look for that positive turn on things, how to put a negative thing over your home, and keep it always going and going forward.
Yeah, no I totally agree. I think I did a video a couple of months back on bad day versus opportunity, and that’s so true I talk about what you’re saying before is that you can look at it one way or you can look at it another way, and I think it’s really important to look at things in a positive slant, whether we agree or we don’t agree with what’s going on in our lives, and maybe sit back and reflect inwardly, and say okay, where am I what am I doing? What can I do to change this place?
And I certainly know with the Feng shui that I’ve been involved with and the training I’ve done over the years, the environment that we have and that we live has so much impact on us. If we can change the environment a great place, it doesn’t need to be a lot of money spent, it can just be the simple things and decluttering your house, and having a feeling of not walking into a room that has stuff do that next week, I really will.
And then you get busy with work, you get busy with the kids, you get busy with things at home and the business, and then you keep walking into this space and you go ugh, I’ve got to get … it just doesn’t make you feel that great Whereas if you just do something each day it might be a small thing. Maybe just take one thing out of the house, don’t bring any more things into the house. To declutter each day, take one piece, where do you donate that or give that to a friend, or if it’s due for the trash because it’s years old and it’s not going to be of any use to anybody, or give it away to somebody else he’s going to love it as much as you did when you first got it. Then you head towards having that positive space in a positive environment, which has a really great effect on people.
And I think that you’re right with what you say about pulling one thing out, and I think we might have touched on this last week with decluttering, and it’s the … I chose five things with mine, because after having five children here I had an awful lot of 30-year decluttering to do, and if I make myself go five things every day you may think well that’s not enough, but at the end of the week, I’ve done 5 x 7, 30 things out of that place. Times that by a month, that’s 120 items, and before you know it you’re looking at it, and you’re going.
That looks amazing. Yeah, absolutely. I think people overestimate what they can do in 24 hours, versus underestimate what they can do in 30 days, and if we look at it from that perspective it’s kind of like some of the Asiatic and Asian cultures, they look at it 1% change each day of their life, so by the end of the year you got 365% increase in what you’re doing, and I like to do that with the business and what we do, we’re always looking for different ways of how to improve, how to add more value to clients, how can you be a better service?
Because Probably cowboys and cowgirls out there at different times, but equally there’s a lot of good people in real estate, too, and I think that they do want to do the right thing and it’s like me, every day I want to sort of look at what’s available, what technology we can use, web sources, tools, tips, tricks, anything that we can help our clients make that more streamlined process and stress-free, because it can be quite an anxious time for people when they’re buying, selling, leasing all sorts of things to do with real estate.
And that’s what we said, is coming back to emotional or even, whether you’re buying if your home or not. And talking about real estate being painted with a certain brush like car salesman, and you’re so correct in what you say there, but the thing is people get the individuals that stand out amongst the crowd, which is yourself.
Which brings me to the point-
Thank you, yes. Thank you very much, we got nominated. I really appreciate everybody moving forward with the altitude awards, we got the finalists nomination for business excellence, which wasn’t expecting at all, but I really appreciate everybody voting and everybody getting behind the business and what we do, because I know from my perspective, that the team works really hard and we’re so dedicated to doing what we do every day for everybody and there’s so much more behind the scenes that a lot of people don’t realise, and I think everyone thinks that real estate, just hang out the sign and make a lot of money but there so many steps behind the scenes that you have to do to make that happen, and I couldn’t be or do what I do without the great team that I’ve got that I work with, so I really appreciate everybody that’s on board.
I get to work with my dad, Warren, each and every day, so that’s terrific. And Jo, my Sister-in-law, Melissa, and also Sandra, and I’ve got a new employee that’s just started last week, Michele, hi Michele. And so the team is growing, we’ve been looking, we’ve been hiring over the last couple of weeks, and we just sort of found a couple of people that are going to slide in nicely to working with the business and to help provide that additional service for people, and you’ll get to speak to each and every one of them.
And of course, Topsy, Bruce, and Lilly are always available, are the directors of first impressions at reception, the puppy dogs so you get to say hello, as well, and it’s always fun another day in the office, but as you say, I’m very grateful for everything that they do for me each and every day.
And look it’s been reflected by what you got Rachael, and that’s, I think it’s the minimum I think what the community can give back to you and I think it’s great.
So you said that you’ve got more people now working?
Yes.
So it’s going for you, everything?
Yes, yeah the category that I got nominated in was in regards to business excellence and also business growth, for most broke over the last 18 months. So I think that is a testament to what everyone’s doing in the office, and we’re very dedicated to the cause, we’re very dedicated to real estate and the people that we serve, and I’m very interested in that process because it is a family business, and because the outcome and the results for them means a lot to me.
I look at the outcome for each and every person I said I was buying that house or I was leasing that house, or I was wanting to find the dream home. So I’m always looking from the consumers point of view and seeing how experience is for them, and over the years we’ve learned so much and we’re always improving that system, but always wanting to take on any feedback from people better looking at changing things or wanting a different experience.
So for example, Property Management, everyone thanks that’s just a cookie cutter set up. Just come in you hand over your property with your keys, and somebody leases it out well that’s not necessarily the case, I mean even down to the simple things of your payments that you get from the real estate agent. Some people will pay weekly, some people will pay fortnightly, some people monthly, and it really depends on how you want those payments to be received, the rental income from the property, so we can set that up exactly the way you want it, but it’s just one of many, I think it’s close to 100 things that we’ve identified with the property management that you need to look at prior to leasing your property to make sure that you get it right.
I know that when I’ve had property and sold, not in Hawkesbury, is actually up in my mother-in-law’s place, and I didn’t have a property manager, and I actually suffered from not having a property manager. And at the end of the day, sometimes people will think oh well I can do it myself and save the money, the amount of time and stress and everything you go through, it’s really not worth the tiny bit of money you save. You actually would produce money by giving it to professionals.
And that even comes back to like when we were talking about the home handy person doing things, tackle what you want, but at the end of the day don’t try and Tackle things that a professional can do much quicker and you I’ve got to actually get on with your job of making the money you make and what you enjoy doing.
Yeah, it’s so true, I completely agree with you. Two things out of that that I get, one in regards to the trades people, and one in regards to a professional real estate agent. We had one the other day, the owners had been managing the property for a number of years, and had been considering getting a real estate agent in, but it’s the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t, and I prefer to have the money coming in to their account, they can see it, touch it, feel it, and thinks that they’re in control.
But that tenant actually got out of control with the rental payment, so it was close to $10,000 that the owner was in arrears. Now, for us taking that over that’s a big mountain to climb. There was a rainbow at the end of that story, and we were able to recover the funds and the tenants don’t necessarily …
Hello, everybody, are we back on again? I’m sorry about that. Yeah, we just had a little glitch as Kathryn said, Thank you for where did we get up to you, where did you see me before I was frozen on the screen?
What you were explaining Rachael is how we could get arrears in the rental properties, so like the rent getting into arrears to a large amount, there was that little part at the end of the rainbow for them. But I think what was important like what you were saying is that when you get into that point, like I’m from the I’ve been there sort of thing, but when you get someone that is so far in arrears, that’s a really stressful situation to be in.
I’m sure you encountered that with the people, and they probably thought that it was very hopeless. So for you to come in and to be able to take that up, I think it’s really important that this has come up today, because a lot of people I’m sure, will be out there saying you know what, I am so sick of the stress, so sick of arguing with these people, and you don’t need that bad energy in life. That’s where I say don’t do that, because if you do that, you come and see someone like me because you get really bad energy and then you get sick, or you give it to Rachael she doesn’t marvellous job of it, the only problem is I don’t get money out of this, but that’s okay-
But see, they can still … even though they got their $10,000 at the end and their tenant got back in into the right rhythm, they can still come and see you to make sure that they tune in with their body.
I think a lot of us forget, Kathryn you might tell the people as opposed to myself, but a lot of us, it’s kind of like a massage, getting that regular massage once a month or once every six months so that your back is aligned, so that you’re not in to go and see that therapist all the time with your back and making sure that it’s out of alignment. If you’re going to somebody like yourself, naturopathy and hypnotherapy on a regular basis, they might just tune in to where their body needs to be and restart and just work through everything that they need to work through.
So I mean I’m not too sure what your thoughts are around that but I think it’s kind of like regular car maintenance, just do it on a regular basis and life will be good.
I look at it this way, when I started off I just doing mind therapy and then I went into naturopathy so I could give a holistic view to things, but you know it’s not putting the bandaid over something if you’ve got something that’s unwell in your body and actually getting to the source, so I think that’s important. If you get to source of something, you fix a problem you don’t want to come back.
But I mean and not getting weighed down by the heaviness of this or anything, but anxiety and depression, all those sort of things, are things we don’t want to talk about it like as beyondblue habit which I speak of for beyondblue one in three people for anxieties, and those statistics are very, very much there and to take the stigma away … and this is what I find though, Rachael, that some people are worried about the stigma of having to see someone about mind therapy. And it’s sad because if you broke your arm you would run off and get it fixed, but when you have a broken mind, you go oh well it’s okay I’ll fix it, and you don’t and it gets worse and worse for some people.
But, it’s the other thing too, as you know workshops that are during and I find that I’m putting out there for worry well, and it’s for people to be able to have a list, be focused, and not to get caught up in that mind chatter at night so they can’t sleep, so that they can actually learn to turn that bad worry into good worry.
So doing that, or touching base, or reading a positive book or affirmations, or any simple thing that you do … and even if you only think of doing it, is a small step. And that’s a step forward and that’s all that matters. It’s like that 1% you spoke of, 1%, by the time you finish you’ve done a lot of steps or you’ve walked across the Simpson Desert or you’ve done something … climbed the mountains in Nepal or whatever you’ve done.
That’s terrific, and do you think, too, that the stigma is also attached to the males in the world, that we go to them they fix all the problems, so therefore you know it’s not cool for a guy to cry or it’s not cool for a guy to say that he needs to chat to somebody. Like, as you said the stigma attached for women as well, you might be seen as … I don’t know less than who you are, if you present this problem to people or say something to somebody.
What are your thoughts, what sort of things are you seeing out there?
So what I see is, I think, you know I also volunteer at lifeline, and I did that for some many years, and there I had a lot of elderly gentleman ringing that were very lonely and lost. I’ve done worked with the Men’s Shed up in Richmond, and I’ve actually done a lot with Men’s Shed Australia in looking at their offices and what they’ve got round the place. I’ve spoken to a lot of that sort of situation with retired males.
I have had younger gentlemen coming to me to see me for therapy, which I actually high five for doing that, because in saying look I have something I need to fix it, and I love it and the things they love, they then share my stuff around their Facebook, they’re proud of it which is great, because that empowers other young guys to go you know what? It’s not wrong if I go and do this thing. If anything, it shows that they like taking a mature attitude, to well you know what I have something wrong. I want to fix it.
And guy that get to the retirement age, yeah you’re right, they’ve been looking after the family, they’ve had to do this, they’ve been the breadwinners, they’ve been everything. It’s really hard for them to say, “Okay, now I don’t feel like I’m doing that job anymore and I don’t know how to feel.”
Do you think also, sorry to sort of cut you off there, but in regards to the mothers of the world there is an expectation for mothers around Okay well you’ve just got to be a mum, you’re expected to get up, get the kids to school, have their breakfast, make sure their lunch is there, have they got their sports clothes for the day? Did they forget any school shoes? Or uniforms have all got to be washed if you only have one or two uniforms, you’re always washing those.
Then you’ve got to be a wife, then you’ve got to be the person that goes to work, and you’ve got … there’s just this long list of things that you’ve got to do. After school care, after school sport, being a mother, being a sister possibly, being everybody to everybody. Everything to everybody-
That’s right, and it’s a big long list of things and expectations for women and as you say, I think it’s okay to put your hand up and say you know what? I need a hand, or I need some help, or whatever it might be, because I think the more people talking about these sort of things, like you say, to somebody like yourself, but then they can just released what they’re thinking, break down and analyse where things are at and how you can move forward as a team, because everybody thinks that their problem is different, and that nobody else could be feeling this way, or that they’ve never had that situation before, but I’m sure that things have been repeated constantly and constantly.
So many years ago, when I suffered Agoraphobic anxieties for seven years when my children were young and school at and the thing is that I found that I thought I was alone, and then I got over the seven years, which was through hypnotherapy, I then started up an anxiety group, and a friend of mine at the time started it with me, and we had our we’re just going to sit around and we’re not going to have anyone turn up, well we had about 12 to 20 people turn up, and everyone looked at everyone, they all knew each other, and they all went oh my God I didn’t know you did.
They all head behind this fear of this stigma, and they then … and this is going back some 20 years ago, and I mean, the thing is, after that, that was really good, and what that showed me is how many of us are trapped and that feeling of entrapment that we get, and for women, as you say, that have all that job list on their hands, anxieties come from a multitude of stressors that get out of hand.
My best advice to anyone is you have to be selfish. You have to have that time out. You have to try and put that time in. People say to me, “I don’t have time.” And I say to them you don’t have time not to, because if you get to a point that your anxieties are bad like mine, that I was panic attacking, I had an ambulance coming to pick me up because I thought I was having a heart attack. I couldn’t stand anyone coming near to talk to me. I felt trapped. To the point I said at my dinner table with my family and I felt trapped at that and I was in tears and couldn’t sit there, and all the doctors wanted to do … and I’m not criticising doctors, so please don’t think that, is put me on antidepressants, antidepressants, antidepressants, that I didn’t do it and it wasn’t going to help in my mind, I was that bad I was suicidal. So that’s how bad I was, so-
And that’s why you mean you’ve gone in, and done all of this study and now helping other people overcome the same thing, because you’ve got rainbows and unicorns in front of you, haven’t you?
I think it’s because it’s hope, and I hope that I can give that to people. It’s why I speak to the It’s why I do free talks around the Hawkesbury area, to try and help people to get out of that entrapment that they have.
Yeah, and that’s terrific isn’t it? It’s so nice to have that there, and it’s those organisations are so important and integral to everybody in their lives. And as you say, it’s okay to say you know we need to talk, that you need to have a chat, so good on you.
I think high five to you, and it’s a great achievement.
I want to say one thing here while I’ve got the opportunity, to the people that are listening in today and that will replay this. If there’s someone that’s not doing what they usually do, and they think oh wow I wonder why they’re not there or they’re not doing this or anything or they’re sleeping a lot. All these sort of things are signs, takes some time out. Make sure you talk to someone. Take that time out that no one’s around, and listen. Listen to the person because they can make a world of difference to a lot of people, and I know that from Lifeline people ringing in, that they’re lonely and just want to talk.
And that’s a great point. And if somebody wanted to get in touch with you, Kathryn, to you know talk through any concerns that they have or need to work through something, how could they contact you, where do they go?
Well they’ve got my Facebook page, which is the Hypnotherapy and Wellness hub or my website which is hypnotherapyhub.com.au. My phone number 0 4 0 8 4 1 1 8 6 5 which you can write it up on the screen so people can see it, and I don’t have to say it really really quick.
What is your number. 0 4 0 …
0 8 4 1 1 8 6 5.
8 6 5. Okay, let’s see if that comes up. Look at that, magic. Yes it’s always fun and games on this. I know that you had a couple of questions last week from the podcast, and it was around herbs, I believe. Would you be able to fill us in on that before we finish up for the day?
Yeah, sure. I’ll just go quickly into that Rachael. A few people asked me about those awful tasting things that you’re made to take. And I just I give them to people and they go, I says this is going to fix you, and they say that’s disgusting. And after that everything is better. Okay. So you’re okay with that.
I think what I want to say here about a lot of questions I did get. But I mean I can cover them on and off later. But when people go out and they try to self remedy themselves, they’ve got to look at what other tablets or other medications or things they’re on because they can actually have side effects when mixed with other things. And that’s the same with all the oils that are around and things like that. I do do oils. I’m not trying to sell oils. I do do bush-flower, I do all these things and I’m not trying to sell them.
What I’m trying to say to people here is give them knowledge, to not just go and mix things at random, because cause things to actually contraindicate other things and they can cause physical and mental issues for people.
So my bit of advice to anyone, if you want to go off into one look at the health food stores, come home do your doctor googling, but make sure you get a good source of information. Okay?
If you don’t want to come to a naturopath, if you don’t want it even just text me on my Facebook site and ask me or anything, or get in touch with Rachael and she’ll get it to me. But make sure you’re careful what you mix together. I will leave it at that.
I think that’s a really valid point, because suddenly people you know I think the media have a lot to do with it as well. It’s kind of like in real estate. Oh the prices are up one day. Then you watch the TV the next day the prices are down, and the same thing with what you’re talking about is, “Oh, buy this product and it’s going to make you slim.” Or, “Buy this product, it’s going to make you feel alive.”
And, “Buy this product,” all these wonderful things that they’re going to do, and whether they do anything or not, it’s kind of coming back to that trades person conversation with somebody who is a professional, who knows what they’re doing, they need to go to somebody like yourself that’s been doing this for a while, knows exactly where things are at, what’s happening and what contraindications there are. We can all Google things we get all find things online and know what’s happening in that regard.
But to really get the right advice you need to go to the professional that does it each and every day and really want to help you achieve what you want to do.
So they can go forward and do their things better.
I think we’ve had another glitch again. Yes, I think so.
We’re back online. The internet, I think it’s the wind, the wind is blowing and things are coming in and out but, yeah it sort of comes back to the professional, making sure you get the right advice. Kathryn’s always about well for naturopathy or hypnotherapy assistance. I’m always available for any real estate advice in and around the Hawkesbury or abroad.
So if anybody wants to get in contact with me and I haven’t met you before, I’d love to have a cup of coffee. My contact number is 4 5 7 7 9 9 6 4, or you can check the Facebook page. Rachael Goldsworthy Realty. Alternatively our website at RachealGoldsworthy.com.au, which we’ve got some new and exciting things that will be coming forward. We’ve also got some video series that I’ll be sending out to people, it’ll be a free download for people, both on real estate and also Feng shui, so I’m kind of excited about that.
It’s a bit like your workshops that you’ve got coming up, and the location for that will be announced very soon, I believe. We’re just sort of going to do a little bit of reconnaissance, we’re sort of travelling around Australia finding the best locations, but yeah I think that’s really exciting for you to do that.
And we should also get Melissa Follington, I’m not too sure whether she’s on the line at the moment, but get her to come on and have a chat about that oils as well, the essential oils, because we’ve had a lot of questions about that with what you’re doing, and people can get that advice from you as to which oils that they need to use. But then there’s also suppliers, in the local area as well, so-
It’s all about community, it’s all about looking forward to better things with all of us together. I guess the more we work together, the more we can achieve together. So, that’s my message today.
Thank you very much for your time today, Kathryn, thank you for everybody being on the line, and if you’ve got any questions don’t hesitate to contact Kathryn or myself, we’re always happy to help and we look forward to seeing everybody on the next episode.
Bye for now.
Thank you so much for taking time out and listening to today’s episode. If you have any questions on the process of buying, selling, leasing, or strata management, please don’t hesitate to reach out to me.
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I’m Rachael Goldsworthy, and I look forward to catching up with you on the next episode of The Drive Home to Hawkesbury.

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